I wanted to let everyone know that the print version of Tipping Point should now available on Amazon for the U.S, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Italy and other European nations. That has been confirmed by Amazon so if you look in those stores and have a problem ordering please let me know so we can pursue it.

We do have a Kindle EBook version prepared and are now working on uploading that to Amazon, hopefully it will be available soon.

For those who have the print version of the book and who might want a printed copy of the Index (which I often do when I’m seriously researching or studying a book) I do have that file available and can send the Index to you if you drop me a note at larryjoe@westok.net.  It is a separate file from the book and of course only specifically associated with the print version of the book.

PS – if you have already read and enjoyed Tipping Point, a positive review on Amazon would be most appreciated!

As to an update on shows, as I mentioned in my last post Stu Wexler and I did the Ochelli Effect with Chuck Ochelli and you can find a recording of the show here:


Next Thursday both Stu and I will be back with Chuck to discuss the RFK assassination.  We didn’t do a book on that for various reasons but for reference I do have an almost book length, extremely well illustrated, research paper on the Mary Ferrell web site.  You can find it serialized under Incomplete Justice:


Hopefully my friend Gary Murr will also be joining us with Chuck, to help us with information from John Hunt’s magnificent research work on the RFK assassination.

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  1. GW Hail says:

    Lisa Pease has an excellent book on the RFK assassination: “A Lie Too Big To Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.”

    Came out in 2019.

    She covers a lot of ground and names names of possible co-conspirators.

    Covers the pantry shooting very meticulously but it’s still very confusing as to who was exactly standing where at the time of the shooting. Apparently the police drawings were inaccurate and not everyone who was inside the pantry has ever been determined?

    Maybe you can expand on the location of everyone inside the pantry that night?

  2. larryjoe2 says:

    I am familiar with Lisa’s work as well as some of her earlier research on the polka dot dress girt and possible connections related to the PDG. I remain very interested in and have done some research in that area (which is not all on these essays) ….however while Stu and I developed more in that area it was not enough to make us comfortable with a solution – which is why its never gone to the point of a book.

    The text and illustrations in Incomplete Justice do address the detailed movements of several suspects that evening, not just in the pantry but in the hours before the shooting. If fact the activities of those suspects extend back several weeks and demonstrate a conspiracy as well as Sirhan’s likely connection to it. You will find all that in the essays available on MFF.

    What you won’t find are the exacting details of exactly what the police and and in particularly Wolfer and Nuguhci did to obfuscate the evidence of two shooters and the nature of the murder. That is documented in great detail by John Hunt’s meticulous work in the original photographs and documents – and hopefully will be published this year by JFK Lancer and Debra Conway. Stu and I have both examined John’s work but it is Gary who completed the final editing and work required on the manuscript and he can speak to it more completely.

    I think it goes a long way towards answering your question about the pantry.

    • GW Hail says:

      Thanks. Look forward to it.

      My friend Rob Knepper (“Prison Break”) played RFK in a movie. He actually went inside the condemned Ambassador Hotel to the pantry to prepare for his role. He has a signed black and white photo taken by Scott Enyart, the teenage photographer who took photos of RFK that night. It shows RFK standing at the Ambassador Hotel podium addressing the crowd seconds before he was later shot.

      As you know, Enyart claims he was also in the pantry and took photos of the shooting and aftermath. He claims he took photos of RFK falling to the ground.

      His film he took during the shooting was confiscated by police that night and he had to sue to get it back years later. It was “stolen” on the way back from the archives where it was held for all of those years.

      Would’ve been interesting if those photos had ever seen the light of day and what they might have revealed.

      Of course the L.A. district attorney’s office denies Enyart ever took any photos inside the pantry.

  3. larryjoe2 says:

    I’m familiar with Scott’s story and my friend Debra Conway spent a great deal of time working with him and his collection. Personally I tend to think he did have photographs and that even if they did not show everything he thought they would still have been a real problem for the official LAPD story. Given what John did with the material that is in evidence – which is nothing less than a complete deconstruction of the crime scene and ballistics work – Scott’s film story was in itself a risk to the official investigation.

    And of course the official story of the handling and theft of Scott’s films is nothing short of ridiculous, so someone was seriously scared of their going into the public domain.

    • GW Hail says:

      I agree with you and always think back to the movie “China Syndrome” when the courier with the x-rays car gets run off the road and the x-rays vanish!

      Wonder if Michael Douglas was throwing some RFK investigation-shade into the movie?

      The actual Three Mile Island accident happened a few weeks after the movie was released!

      • GW Hail says:

        Hi Larry,

        I finally finished reading your essays on RFK’s assassination on Mary Ferrell.

        I have a couple of followup questions:

        1. Is your Tom Rathke the same person that Lisa Pease writes about a Walter Rathke in her book?

        Your background is much more in detail so I was just curious if these were the same people.

        Walter Rathke was identified as a groom who worked with Sirhan at a ranch in Corona.

        I have Shane O’Sullivan’s book on RFK and he also describes a Tom Rathke as a groom who was friends with Oswald in Corona.

        2. What is your opinion on Jim Braden’s involvement, if any, with the RFK assassination?

        I find the entire Jerry Owen story very intriguing and enjoyed reading your description of him as he relates to the RFK assassination.

        Of course, I’ve read about Owen in other books and recall seeing his name in one of the articles on the RFK assassination that included Braden as an associate but I can’t find the exact reference. It was just in passing and his name was listed among others.

        I have read where Braden has claimed he was in Los Angeles at home asleep with his wife at the time of RFK’s assassination.

        Of course this is the same Jim Braden aka Eugene Hale Brading from Los Angeles who was detained in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated. He told a tall tale to authorities using his alias Jim Braden not his real name Eugene Hale Brading, which had a rap sheet dating back years in New Jersey.

        I’ve read about his story elsewhere where he claimed to be an oil man who travelled to Dallas with other associates in a private jet. He said they stayed at the Cabana Hotel and that he saw his parole officer in Dallas which was later denied by his parole officer.

        Braden has been a suspicious character for years in the JFK assassination.

        I’ve read about others trying to incriminate him in the RFK assassination as he lived in Los Angeles at the time but never seen much else about him.

        However, I did find it odd that his name also surfaced in the RFK assassination regarding the Jerry Owen saga.

        Thanks in advance.


  4. larryjoe2 says:

    Yes, that is the same Rathke, I’ve seen him referred to as both Tom and Walter – Kaiser refers to him as Tom in his book and so does Shane O’sullivan. Legally his full name was Thomas Walter Rathke. Sirhan first met him at the Del Mar race track. Rathke is of key importance as he was the individual who first introduced Sirhan to many of the mental imaging and other “psychic” practices that became so important to Sirhan. The FBI and LAPD did a terrible job interviewing Rathke — which is quite important because the two stayed in touch after Rathke left LA and Rathke apparently knew enough about where Sirhan was going with those practices to warn him that they could lead to something terrible, not long before the shooting.

    I don’t really see any serious tie in for Braden in the whole thing but Jerry Owen is another story entirely. Its pretty clear that he was indeed tied to Sirhan, the big question is whether in the end somebody tried to use him (very possible) or he was involved in using Sirhan (possibly in some other fashion).

    One of the things that became clear to Stu and I is that there were more parties around Sirhan, including friends of his brothers, who were in the position to manipulate him than was ever truly investigated. Reconciling who was involved in the attack vs who was simply peripheral is the same problem that haunts us with Oswald.

    I would suggest the tie breaker is the polka dot dress girl and her associates….and that they lead us more in the direction of middle eastern affairs as the motive than anything directly connected to Jerry Owen.

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